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Hey - check out this poll thing that Karl has provided us with - and a perfect opportunity to use it! Please only vote if you'll be joining us on the 1st for some pie. Karl, I don't know about a third slice in Escondido, but On the Border is right down the road and has outdoor seating (better odor-wise)!

8:00 seems good.  Need to avoid such a long break in Santa Ysabel this time though.

7:30 is perfect. The sun is shining, birds are chirping, not many cars on the road, Sean is awake and can most definitely roll onto his bike at this respectable hour, so 7:30 sounds good to me.  Plus, all he has to do is coast down the hill from his house to Kit Carson, so no excuses.
signed,
AKA Sasquatch from Germany

So far, only one vote has been cast! Opinions are fine, but cast your vote!

Ok, I am missing something here.  How do you vote?  Can't locate any "buttons."

Bill,

Awesome idea, I had not thought of sleeping in my kit, but I like it. I may take it a step further and wear my kit to dinner Saturday night before the pie ride to save even more time. Bill, what goes best, black or brown dress shoes with the NCCC kit? And will the neon green helmet clash with my navy blue sport coat? It will be nice to have three pockets in my jersey to keep the leftovers.

Bill, might I suggest that you start a fashion blog here on the NCCC website. Clearly anyone wearing a sporty tartan jersey has the taste of a runway model during fashion week. We could all benefit from your fashion prowess, please don't keep it to yourself.

Here is some irony, unlike the crazy german, sasquatch who can't figure out how to click the mouse in the little circle next to each starting time option, I did figure out how to vote but, my attendance for the pie ride is uncertain so, I refrain from voting. And frankly, is not crazy and german redundant?

Speaking of redundant crazy german sasquatch bigfoots, who put her in charge of the morning cheer. Sun shining and birds chirping, sounds more like the Kit Carson promotions committee. Or she had one to many mimosas at Burlap this morning.

And at the risk of agreeing with a redundant crazy german sasquatch bigfoot, If I were to attend the ride, the earlier, the better.

Quote from: ucunneen on March 25, 2012, 01:21:53 PM
Ok, I am missing something here.  How do you vote?  Can't locate any "buttons."

Scroll to the top of the post. Bill has 3 radio buttons. Push the button on the left next to either 7:30, 8:00, 8:30. After you will vote, you can see the current totals (else knowing how everyone is voting first, might sway your vote  :))

Sean, why are you a maybe? 

Sean, brown shoes with blue kit/navy coat! 

Sean, yes the dayglow helmet does go with semi formal blue attire.

Sean, agree with the german sasquatch about start time, are you crazy!  Earlier is rarely better, besides no show next week and we're in daylights savings time!

Sean, the german isn't referencing morning cheer with birds chirping.......one word........breakfast!

Sean, I expect to see you on Sunday.  I need a misery partner up NON-GRANDE and then Highlands!

First of all, I would like to thank Mr. Brennan for his support with a 7:30 start time.  Glad to know he has some sense of logical thought.  And coasting down the hill from his house to the start won't be any warmer at 8 anyway.  Anthony, you need to learn from Sean and recognize that 7:30 is the smarter and wiser choice.  I know you can make it. 

You all must have different computers than me because I have yet to see any little buttons to the left of the times.  Nothing shows up.  Karl, does it have anything to do with Mozilla?  Anyway, doesn't really matter since you all know my opinion. 

Firefox is the best browser for our website. Go ALL The way to the top BF, I mean Ursula, before Bill's first post, to see the poll.
web guy

Karl you are my hero - tongue-in-cheek tech god!

Woohoo 8 o'clock!  I'm there, bra!

Anthony you are very inquisitive about my private life but my uncertainty regarding the Pie/Blizzard ride revolves around a potential late night of drinking with my brother and riding with a hangover. Now you may ask why not be more like Wade and have mimosas and drink during the day but the first step is admitting you have a problem.

Wow, good call on the brown shoes with the NCCC kit. You have a knack for this fashion thing, might I suggest you organize a NCCC make over for the men of the club. And since you have a flair for fashion you might consider creating the next NCCC kit. I vote Anthony, anyone else?

And listen….are you crazy NOT agreeing with the Redundant Crazy German Sasquatch Bigfoot (RCGSB). Really who is taking the risk here, I think I am the sane-er one. Maybe it is just my fear of bodily harm from the RCGSB. I have been struck by the mythical creature on prior rides and it is something you do not forget. Fear is a wonderful motivator. So I must agree with BF/Ursula/RCGSB and I stand on the earlier is better.

Karl, nice job on trying to coach the RCGSB on how to vote. At least 7 people figured out how to hit the little buttons next to the start times. Maybe there should be test before we allow people into the club. Questions like which fork do you eat the salad with, can you wear a neon green helmet with a tux, and do you know how to click a computer mouse in a little circle.

What is this "AM showers" crap I see in the forecast for Sunday?
Do I need to put my fenders on again?

Oh yeah, the Pie Ride wouldn't be complete without a little bad weather.  Remember last time?

According to weather.com, the chance of precipitation goes to zero after dawn, so we should be okay, especially with our prudent start time.  http://www.weather.com/weather/hourbyhour/USCA0833?begHour=23&begDay=91#Sun,%20Apr%201 (http://www.weather.com/weather/hourbyhour/USCA0833?begHour=23&begDay=91#Sun,%20Apr%201) Glad to see that we finally had a dissenting vote!

Nerius, I think that Tony would like you to wear your "special" tights - they seemed to give him special motivation to hold onto your wheel last  time.

It is just the slightly disturbing triangle "target" on the back!

I think I just disappointed my wife in some profound way by asking her whether I should wear shorts or tights tomorrow.  Sean, I think it may be time for a drink as my wife has just poured herself one.

The weather looks like it's going to be a tweener, 60ish but into the 40s on Palomar with a bit of wind.    Leaning toward tights I guess.     

There comes a time in every man's life when he has to make the shorts/tights call. Bringing in one's spouse/significant other is probably a mistake, unless removing the said item is also part of the plan.

For me, it's easy, since I don't own a pair of tights. Kneewarmers, tho! They look good with or, dare I say without, shorts!

Jeff, am I going to be up all night waiting for you to post your photos?  :-\

I Like Pie... Ride

This is the photo evidence that pie is the fuel that power’s bike…

Frank's 1st flat  :o

The Official Start  8)

Mother's Kitchen SAG Wagon... Yes Sean it was at the top of Palomar Mountain.

Pie is supper food that takes you to a higher place.

More photos to come...

Jeff

I thought riding 90+ miles on April 1st was a joke. Well the joke was on me.

Never enough pie... How about more pie in Julian

We had a sighting of the Long Ride Mascot or was it Sean???

Done at last, Done at last...Thank God almighty We are Done at last…

Jeff

Is there any way you can post larger versions of these photos, and maybe put them in the photos section of the website?  (Talk to Karl I guess.)

Kudos to Anthony made it after pacing Sewook down Highland Valley with an aching knee. Sewook headed for home in RB and missed the finishing photo. A number of other riders - both Jims, Dave and Andy from the blind stokers club on their tandem, Tony - cut the ride short or left on their own.

Notice anyone else missing from the finish photo?

Steve was left to fend for himself at the bottom of Highland Valley.

Frank was left alone in Ramona, with fifteen miles into the wind to go. He pulled in after 5:20.

Is this how we should treat each other? Especially after reading about Levi Leipheimer's latest crash http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/04/news/leipheimer-i-could-be-dead-for-sure_211934 (http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/04/news/leipheimer-i-could-be-dead-for-sure_211934) I'm ashamed at having left Frank behind, and hope that we will all take each others' well-being more seriously in the future.

We ride as a group for a reason, right? Or is it just so that you have someone to drop and feel superior to?? Believe me,there are plenty of groups that would love to have you battle to the county-line sprint. Try a Ranchos, Swamis or SDBC ride or two, and you'll find out where your place is in the pack.

NCCC is special because we take care of each other. All of us know how lousy it feels to be dropped off the back and left for dead. If you need a real challenge, try dropping back and working to bring a group back to the front. You might discover something more important than making it to the top of the next hill first.

Bill, the last Pie Ride we did 4 months ago had a much better "group spirit".  I think that is because the December version of the ride was a much smaller group and the circumstances were tougher (weather).  And the 7 riders on the last ride were riding at a similar tempo.

Did you realize that this Pie Ride took almost as long as our 140 mi Borrego ride last month?

I think riders have to judge themselves conservatively, making sure that they can handle a VERY HARD 100 mi ride before starting the ride.

It's not about going fast, it's about holding an OK pace the whole way.

Quote from: William Turek on April 03, 2012, 04:55:39 PMI'm ashamed at having left Frank behind

Paypal me a twenty and that shame will disappear.

I dropped off when I got my third flat.  It was getting late, we were close to the finish and I didn't want everybody to wait for me.   

Hmm. I did help pace you and Steve through Mesa Grande . . .

How about I pay you back the way I stay on Diana's good side, with pushes?

Bill, sorry we let you down that day, it certainly wasn't intentional on anybody's part!  I know you've come pull me up on many occasions and when I think of that I wish I could go back and do more, next time!  Ursala wants Pie ride every quarter, so maybe sooner than we think potentially.  Sean wants to enlist you as part of a Saturday ride leader group, I second that thought/nomination!

Your word made an impact as during yesterday's ride we did regroup, assist a new slower rider, we slowed down a bit and worked as a team.....until the end when we left Diana in the wind (literally) at the end of Highland Valley.  More room to improve but we obviously had a negative impact.

Finding this group 15 months ago was one of the best things in to occur for me  in years.  That feeling was only increased with the outpouring of concern and well wishes for my wife and I.  But now since the tension has been sadly too high of late and I MUST add some humor at this point...

The 2 pictures that follow are one showing snow on top of Palomar  - doesn't matter which ride since Sean never made it to the top, so it could be both rides as far as he knows.  The odd face I have (in the picture, not always!) is because I miss my buddy Sean and knew I would face the non Grande climb alone.

The second cartoon is one showing the list the German Sasquatch was making in the beautiful morning Sean, just replace Grimmy with....you know who...

...........continued........

As I reread my last addition to the board, I realize how mean and cruel Sean has been to Ursala by tagging her with that new nickname.  Of course boys being boys I piled on in assistance.

I would suggest in the spirit of NCCC Roadies Long Riders (NCCC-RLR) team spirit, brotherhood and sisterhood we all open up and show Ursala some compassion by sharing the nicknames we each have had of the years given to us by friend and foe alike.  I shall be the first to bravely share these old painful names...

Scuzzy
Scuzbum
Chewy
GI Joe with the kung fu grip

.......who will be the next brave soul to be vulnerable?

For my part on the pie ride, the pie a la mode and coffee i consumed at Mothers was being classified as "gut bomb" as i pulled into the lot at Julian Pie shop, and i also was beginning to get kinda stiff, so i figured if i went ahead alone on the route, it wouldn't be long before the peloton caught me.  Jim Hutchings was also ready to take off, and asked me if he should wait for me. I declined, knowing that i would only slow him down in a vain attempt to stay on his wheel! So, i took off a couple minutes after Jim, just wanting to go at my own pace and keeping loose.

As it turned out, had i not stopped for 2 pee breaks, and one encounter with some crazed cyclist in a bright green helmet, i might have met you all closer to the finish.  As it was, after you all swallowed me up and spit me off the back just before Archie Moore Dr., I happily saw that Anthony and Sewook were also off the back.  I picked it up a little and rode with them for about a mile, and then flatted at the 15mph right hander.  Sewook saw that i flatted, and i wasn't too concerned as they rode on, being that they seemed anxious to finish. I was actually feeling OK, however slowly i was going, so Mr. ipod and i got the repairs done and continued on.

When i got to the bottom of Highland, i considered turning off the pavement to the right, where there is a jeep trail that i have ridden many times on my mountain bike, which takes almost a direct line to the No. Co. Fair, and would cut off a couple miles and get me to what i believed would be the empty parking lot at Kit Carson sooner. But, in solidarity with you all, i re considered, and turned back onto the pavement which is where i spied Bill who had graciously turned back in order to shepard me back home.  Thanks Bill! I'm glad i reconsidered, because you might have ridden right by me and still be searching for my remains on Highland Valley!

I was happy to see Bill, it is always nice, and more fun to ride with a friend.  However being alone out there isn't the worst thing to happen to me.  I can't count the many times i have been left behind by the group; each time it happens it encourages me to ride more and get fitter, it always feels great when i can finally spend the day NOT trying to catch up the whole day.  But, I always bring my cell phone just in case i do get spit off the back, and have some kind of problem so that i can't finish.

Anthony,
Thanks for sharing your nicknames. I know how vulnerable you must feel putting yourself out there like that but good for you opening yourself up and shouting to the world “I am secure with myself” regardless how those mean kids treated me. I feel much closer to you now and feel we have bonded to the point that if you pulled a Bill T (grabbed my ass) I would not feel the need to press criminal charges. Now I am not inviting you pull a Bill T I am just saying that a man with Kung Fu Grip may have such tendencies.

Then again there may be by-laws against pulling a Bill T as it may be deemed aggressive, offensive, and in appropriate. I defer to the by-law committees to research and opine.

Now I am taken aback at your insistence that I am mean to Ursula/ucanueen/ursulacuneen/crazygerman/bigfoot/sasquatch. All I have done is repeat what I have learned from this forum and I take what I see posted as cold hard fact. So, if someone says there is a member with unusually large feet, then I am a believer. My crime is in repeating what has already been stated. And keep in mind this is a woman who has publically admitted to forgetting her name. She does not know if it is ucuneen or ursulacuneen. This all sounds very mysterious and again stinks of conspiracy. I suggest we check her birth certificate to determine if she is really a German Olympic athlete using a fake name masquerading as a Saturday rider. In which case, I believe the by-laws state, no professionals allowed.

Anthony, can you please check this out. And please order more tin foil to line my helmet as the voices are getting louder.

Sean,
I tried to interrogate Ursala during the ride you MISSED on Saturday but the woman is tough.  She started to get a bit agitated and I was concerned she might kick me with her big feet so I backed off.  She showed some documents but they were in German or German sasquatch or some language I couldn't read and plus the Euros (including sasquatch) use some odd date format so I wasn't even sure about the string of numbers.  It will take an interrogation team to get to the bottom of this!

As far as you "feeling much closer" due to my opening up....blah, blah, blah......a "true friend" would come out into the light and share their nicknames from the past in this open forum to improve the sense of team, brotherhood, and/or sisterhood.  Sadly, I've been left to stand alone with all showing to the world.  Ouch, it kind of reminds me of those high school dances or Saturday nights out in the bars during college.  Thanks, "friend", for taking my vulnerable side and kicking it to just make it all hurt a bit more.

BTW - if you can't share nicknames, can you at least add to the comedy group comparisons I started and who in our group you cast in each role.

Only one nickname for me - "spud" which transformed into "potato." The origin kind of makes sense. Comes from Oct 4, 1957 and the sputnik launch. My friends took that spooky event (you had to be there watching that thing blink across the sky at night, dreaming of Russians falling from the sky and invading your house), looked at my last name, and I eventually became "potato" or "potata."
So I shared... - Karl

Did I start this? Mercy on us all! BTW, other than Billy, which I went by through grade 6, my only other nicknames are Spilliam (it was college, ok?) and studmuffin (but you'd have to ask my wife about that, as it clearly doesn't translate to my bicycle riding). See you on the road!

I'm really feeling the sense of team now, let's keep it going.  Bill, I won't be referring to you as Studmuffin anytime soon though!  I am going to have to talk to my wife about the nicknames she uses for me.

I saw an old HS friend at a conference earlier this week and talked to another and realized "Scuzbum" was also often shorten to simply Scuz.  I also realized in the workplace I have a number of nicknames that all seem wrapped around the same 3 letter root word.  You know the one, it starts with an "a" and can be used alone, at the beginning of a word with "hole" or at the end when it starts with "jack."  Come to think of it I hear it at stoplights too.

Off to Cal State Northridge and maybe Pepperdine along tall son w/long hair aka Dscoz, Biggie D, and Big guy.  I should see you on Sunday...remember my ID, remember my ID, remember my ID.